you’ve got an interesting selection of books lined up to read. i read Starhawk’s fifth sacred thing a few years back – not bad. i bought Jung’s Answer To Job on the back of my rabid anti-jahweh therapist’s recommendation & can see why he digs it so much.
i’d recommend you adding Blavatsky’s Secret Doctine to your list, as she’s possibly THE primary source for new age movement teaching – it’s in two volumes. Manly P Hall’s Secret Teachings of All Ages is also a must. these are two of the heavyweight articulators of the luciferian doctrine – they both define themselves as such.
written by another lucy ferken of note, RAW’s Illuminatus Trilogy is one i look forward to you reading. the end’s a bit weak in my opinion but what a ride.
I’m just finishing Starhawk now – 4/5 – but need to go via some NT Wright orthodoxy (Evil and Judgement I think its called) to Thomas Talbotts The Inescapable Love of God (Both newer arrivals), before I even think of the Luciferic trajectory.
Thanks anyhow for the other recommendations. Unfortunately, I have run out of shelf space – what more do I have to do to show you my dilemma?
Nic: yeah, the luciferic trajectory is an ancient & often submerged one. i’m particularly interested in connections between the ancient mystery schools, the luciferic stream, evolutionary social theory, the new age & what many see as a move towards a one world global government. now that’s a mouthful.
Andrew: yeah, i ask myself the same question sometimes. maybe the key thing is knowing when one has looked long & hard enough at a particular thing & that it’s time to move on.
gracious, curious souls all. i’m all for books, i really am. there’s very little enjoy more than sitting in a cafe, book in hand, moleskin notebook at the ready, eyes occasionally glancing out the window to watch souls & cars go by.
i’ve realised though that i was always hoping to find “the book” – the one that was finally going to peel the scales from my eyes and reveal what i’ve been looking for. i therefore relate to your comment Andy about not being sure what you’re looking for.
i spent a decade or more deconstructing my certainties – through quantum physics, gnosticism & Robert Anton Wilson’s “maybe logic” especially. with the current status quo unravelling in front of our eyes, some might castigate those like me, who are reaching for some certainty. #
i’m tired of “maybe logic”, tired of emergence, the suspension of belief, the skepticism of anything approaching absolute truth, tired of dogmatic relativists. tired of words & more words…
Russ
I’m grateful for your words but my library feels a little offended.
No, I agree with you, I wish I could spend all my time making music and being with those I loved.
Much too many words, and much too many more to come I’m afraid…
Still we can concur with the preacher when he says
“Of the reading of books there is no end, and much study wearies the body. When all has been said, let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.”
I think there is a difference between “conviction” and “dogma”
I maybe don’t have the same love of books as some of my friends (even though, ironically, I read a lot of books).
What I’m looking for is an experience of God and sence of a comuning with the Spirit. I Know that I won’t find this in a book. I have to live this out through acts of faith or through “imitatio Dei” (imitation of God). Is this being Dogmatic?
yeah the proof of the pudding is in the eating, in our simple acts of faith & compassion. i find it interesting how women generally tend to read far less books than us guys, at least as an avenue for working out their faith. theological debate – be it fundamentalist, orthodox, emergent etc – seems heavily dominated by white middle class men.
russ said
Nic.
you’ve got an interesting selection of books lined up to read. i read Starhawk’s fifth sacred thing a few years back – not bad. i bought Jung’s Answer To Job on the back of my rabid anti-jahweh therapist’s recommendation & can see why he digs it so much.
i’d recommend you adding Blavatsky’s Secret Doctine to your list, as she’s possibly THE primary source for new age movement teaching – it’s in two volumes. Manly P Hall’s Secret Teachings of All Ages is also a must. these are two of the heavyweight articulators of the luciferian doctrine – they both define themselves as such.
written by another lucy ferken of note, RAW’s Illuminatus Trilogy is one i look forward to you reading. the end’s a bit weak in my opinion but what a ride.
speak soon.
russ…
nic paton said
I’m just finishing Starhawk now – 4/5 – but need to go via some NT Wright orthodoxy (Evil and Judgement I think its called) to Thomas Talbotts The Inescapable Love of God (Both newer arrivals), before I even think of the Luciferic trajectory.
Thanks anyhow for the other recommendations. Unfortunately, I have run out of shelf space – what more do I have to do to show you my dilemma?
Andrew said
Don’t you sometimes think that you are looking in the wrong place?
nic paton said
I stand by my right to look in the wrong place.
russ said
Nic: yeah, the luciferic trajectory is an ancient & often submerged one. i’m particularly interested in connections between the ancient mystery schools, the luciferic stream, evolutionary social theory, the new age & what many see as a move towards a one world global government. now that’s a mouthful.
Andrew: yeah, i ask myself the same question sometimes. maybe the key thing is knowing when one has looked long & hard enough at a particular thing & that it’s time to move on.
till soon,
russ…
Gavin Marshall said
Perhaps it depends on what one is looking for…
nic paton said
I stand by my right to look for the wrong thing.
Don Rogers said
I like what Russ said,
“maybe the key thing is knowing when one has looked long & hard enough at a particular thing & that it’s time to move on. ”
Not always an easy thing to do, but still my mantra.
Andrew said
Don, I agree, but the problem comes when you not sure of what the thing you are looking for looks like!!
I usually find my instincts help, as I have a good feel for what I’m not looking for.
Blessing
Andrew
Don Rogers said
Andrew- I used to think “trust your feelings(instincts)” was so wrong. Now, I find feelings are the true test.
russ said
gracious, curious souls all. i’m all for books, i really am. there’s very little enjoy more than sitting in a cafe, book in hand, moleskin notebook at the ready, eyes occasionally glancing out the window to watch souls & cars go by.
i’ve realised though that i was always hoping to find “the book” – the one that was finally going to peel the scales from my eyes and reveal what i’ve been looking for. i therefore relate to your comment Andy about not being sure what you’re looking for.
i spent a decade or more deconstructing my certainties – through quantum physics, gnosticism & Robert Anton Wilson’s “maybe logic” especially. with the current status quo unravelling in front of our eyes, some might castigate those like me, who are reaching for some certainty. #
i’m tired of “maybe logic”, tired of emergence, the suspension of belief, the skepticism of anything approaching absolute truth, tired of dogmatic relativists. tired of words & more words…
but i’m not tired of you guys.
russ, hopeful dystopian
nic paton said
Russ
I’m grateful for your words but my library feels a little offended.
No, I agree with you, I wish I could spend all my time making music and being with those I loved.
Much too many words, and much too many more to come I’m afraid…
Still we can concur with the preacher when he says
“Of the reading of books there is no end, and much study wearies the body. When all has been said, let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.”
Andrew said
Russ,
I think there is a difference between “conviction” and “dogma”
I maybe don’t have the same love of books as some of my friends (even though, ironically, I read a lot of books).
What I’m looking for is an experience of God and sence of a comuning with the Spirit. I Know that I won’t find this in a book. I have to live this out through acts of faith or through “imitatio Dei” (imitation of God). Is this being Dogmatic?
illuminaatjie said
Andy.
yeah the proof of the pudding is in the eating, in our simple acts of faith & compassion. i find it interesting how women generally tend to read far less books than us guys, at least as an avenue for working out their faith. theological debate – be it fundamentalist, orthodox, emergent etc – seems heavily dominated by white middle class men.
Nic, amen, too many more words to come…
.r
illuminaatjie said
two more primary new age writers worth adding to the pile: annie besant & alice bailey, both founding mothers of the NAM.
Don Rogers said
Russ- The feeling I get is that it is time to step back from words and just BE. I find that from time to time, I am also in that situation.
Simple Meditation said
Excellent content and style…keep up the good work!
Riverwolf said
A very interesting shelf. I have 1 or 2 of these myself. My book shelf is pretty full, too–so many books, so little time!
Just found your site and will return.
Matt Stone said
Interested in discussing Campbell
nic paton said
Sure Matt, what forum did you have in mind?